alt Hacker News> Yeah but they were so that intentionally trying to build a better C++/Java
They were trying to build a faster Python, thinking that would appeal to C++ developers. The theory was that developers were using C++ at Google because they had to, not because they wanted to, and would choose something like Python instead if it were up to the performance task. Although it turned out in the end that C++ developers actually wanted to use C++.
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> Although it turned out in the end that C++ developers actually wanted to use C++.
Oof, I don't think so. It's just ridiculous how many things Google uses C++ for where something like Go or Java would be a better fit, and everyone I talked to agreed. No one liked C++ for search-like things.
I think they just underestimated how powerful the network effects were. People wanted to use Go, but then it didn't have Flume support forever, so what can you actually do with it? And all the NLP libraries were in C++. And the vector-search library was C++, and graph clustering, and so on. One of the basic data formats was super-clunky for ages as well, but I forget if it was SSTable / RecordIO / Capacitor or what.
Or perhaps the Go creators were just writing very different code in very different domains from what I saw as the bread-and-butter C++/flume data-crunching pipelines of Search and Maps.
> Although it turned out in the end that C++ developers actually wanted to use C++.
Survivorship bias. You're only looking at the people who remained C++ developers. A bit like a politician bragging that they have 100% approval rating among their supporters even as their supporter count dwindles.
No they weren't, in fact they were very surprised by the adoption from Python folks.
"I was asked a few weeks ago, "What was the biggest surprise you encountered rolling out Go?" I knew the answer instantly: Although we expected C++ programmers to see Go as an alternative, instead most Go programmers come from languages like Python and Ruby. Very few come from C++.
We—Ken, Robert and myself—were C++ programmers when we designed a new language to solve the problems that we thought needed to be solved for the kind of software we wrote. It seems almost paradoxical that other C++ programmers don't seem to care."
https://commandcenter.blogspot.com/2012/06/less-is-exponenti...