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yeodevlast Sunday at 3:32 PM1 replyview on HN

Same, you can think of China whatever you want but they're really good at giving big tech a reality check when it comes to AI. We now got a pretty wide range of open-weight models (from DeepSeek and MiMo over to Kimi K3, Qwen 3.8 & GLM-5.2) and I think it's most important that there's a variance not only between quality / intelligence and also cost.

I mean even the cheapest option for Luna is still more expensive than anything DS or MiMo is offering right now and I think a new Ministral model would also hit hard there because we also need some variance in model sources, we can't rely only on the US and China.


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glimshelast Sunday at 3:39 PM

"China" isn't giving anything. These are Chinese companies leveraging their best competitive strategy at the moment: competing on price.

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