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People saying copy aren't wrong...but if you can offer a copy at 1/5th of the price then you've got a winning product not a copy
kimi has been particularly shameless in copying codex 1:1, wow.
Like, I get it, before condex there was conductor and a ton of other guis but this looks like they just copied the code.
Also, their privacy disclosure is incredibly misleading:
> How does Kimi Work protect my privacy when accessing local files? You have absolute control over your files. The built-in Ask before acting safeguard means Kimi will prompt you for explicit authorization before it modifies, overwrites, or runs code within your local directories. Nothing happens without your consent.
They fail to mention that is has unfettered read access to your files. ie, without your consent.
Pretty shameless copy, but also shows how easy it is to do so. OpenAI and Anthropic had first-mover advantage, but easy come, easy go.
wow -- "Let's take something off your plate" just copied word-for-word from the Claude Cowork UI.
And it is above the fold in their hero image!
I wish they had some kind of US hosted option, NDR policy, or something like that. I love the price and power, but I have concerns around data sovereignty and leaking IP to an overseas company.
I wish they'd embed the Code UI as a tab, similar to Claude Code Desktop.
There's really no real reason for those tools to be separate and for them not to give me something a bit nicer than just a TUI in the terminal.
They already have a locally runnable web UI when you have Kimi (the CLI) installed: https://www.kimi.com/help/kimi-code/cli-getting-started
kimi server run --foreground
Personally, I still liked ZCode better and will probably write a blog post about my experience with K3 too, the harness might need some more work, but the model is really, really good.
Just wire in "teh cloud!!1" to your local files.
What could go wrong?
Still a chat interface, so definitely not an "AI Desktop".
Also this was released about a month ago
https://tech.yahoo.com/ai/meta-ai/articles/moonshot-ais-kimi...
I feel that Kimi’s overall design is quite similar to Codex, and I hope it can excel over Codex in certain functional aspects.
Is there an opensource version of such a tool. I would really like a desktop app and use different models instead of a CLI.
The most astonishing thing to me about the AI boom is that nobody really has managed to establish vendor lock-in. Switching is so easy.
I wonder when they are going to start realizing that on-premises self-hosted is the solution over local
The Chinese marketing blitz is on! Ha ha
Guess where the models are gonna be hosted? Hint, not China.
Looks like this can use webBridge, run Python and shell code in the background. Cowork can take over application UI as well which is still a differentiator (and a higher security risk) unless kimi offers it elsewhere.
so...GUI/closed source version of their @MoonshotAI/kimi-code TUI?
They already have a hosted version of openclaw
https://www.kimi.com › bot
Is there a link anywhere for a docs site for this? Really curious to know what "deep data sources" they have set up for the Native Global Market Data feature.
while it's true the model layer is getting commoditized, there is absolutely no way we are migrating any serious enterprise workflows to Kimi work. i think chinese models will continue to have an adoption problem.
Am i the only one that is wary of connecting kimi to my desktop and filesystem. Very different beast than using its API via OpenRouter.
Could I use the browsing feature to search for land to buy? Or is there an easier way I’m overlooking?
Hoping to find something on a creek with a Mountain View and fairly remote.
If history is anything to go by, in the next week we'll see a distill of GPT 5.6 or Mythos that is not as powerful as either, but pokes its head just in front of Kimi K3.
Agents are quite capable for any work involving CLI (not TUI) applications.
Seems to work for me to manage my emails. I have Proton Mail bridge and `mbsync` dumping all mail to a local folder, with an inotify watch script to react to new emails and classify them as either needing my attention (ignore) or something that does need my attention (send me a notification).
I've been looking for a good CLI spreadsheet editor
I'm kinda confused given that they're from China. The Chinese Internet is very different from the western Internet. The web is way smaller, and a lot of useful content is behind app-based walled ecosystems such as Wechat, Douyin and Xiaohongshu. This makes web automation much less useful. And I don't see them marketing something like Wechat automation?
Has anyone cancelled their $200 ChatGPT subscription and started using Kimi? It'd be an interesting metric to measure. I for one have no motivation to use this model. Nonetheless, I'm always happy to see more competition.
that looks exactly like the recent codex!
When they release Kimi Design and I'll consider moving over
They're running like 10 tokens per second, constantly timing out, and launching new products?
How about deploy some inference GPUs first
Read the privacy policy.
It rubs me the wrong way that they have to copy everything, the UI is almost exact copy of Codex. The entire mind set of just copy the best is holding them back.
I have a UI I developed from first principles about 10 years ago, I use it to replace my os, its like my personal do everything emacs os but not at all emacs, and its funny to see other Uis iteratively convergence on it as context finally gets its due.
If this is what pops this bubble, I'll take it!
Nobody actually producing hard goods, real world value and actual software are using these cute tools. Its completely worthless to people actually doing things.
Will be cool until the AI goes ape shit and starts deleting all your files, wipes out your corporate file share, but not before uploading it all online.
Not saying Kimi will do this, but it's perfectly reasonable to expect this to happen, because there is really nothing anyone can do to prevent it. No, this is not meant to go in an isolated VM on a Linux box in a cheap VPS somehwere. This is meant for regular home users and corporate users to install on their primary system where all their personal and corporate data is available.
The above is a PSA (public service announcement) not just for Kimi, but also for GPT and Claude. If you don't understand how it's impossible to prevent the above from happening, then you should never use one of these tools.
No linux? They should ask k3 to add linux feature lol.
Not available for linux...
thats pretty disappointing.
China copying shit blatantly haha but winning surely
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For the past 3 years, many software engineers were coping that AI (particularly LLMs) was only going after juniors. Given the documented history of mass layoffs related to AI from 2024 to today, it is clear that everyone including seniors and staff level folks are just as affected.
So let's just say, if your whole identity is for being a typical software engineer no matter the seniority and nothing else, perhaps it is time for you to reconsider options as of course 100% avoiding AI is futile at this point.
There will still be new jobs, but there will be no need for more excess people, even under Jevon's paradox. Software engineers were just the test bed for this and now there is an oversupply of SWEs without jobs in the market and will have to use AI tools like Kimi Work and Claude Cowork to be employable.
this landing page looks like a cheap ripoff of google's antigravity: https://antigravity.google/
Also known as the "Xi Jinpeng learns about your business" app.
It's a mistake to make this such an obvious copy. It will feed the narrative that Chinese entities cannot be trusted by the West. They could have varied it even slightly. It's one thing with hardware because customers don't need to trust suppliers any further than they can throw the box. But these labs seem to be battling for enterprise knowledge work-share. Trust is paramount, and they're already behind on that front. Own goal.
> Kimi Work is a Local Agent designed for deep workflows. It mounts your local folders, navigates the web autonomously via WebBridge, runs Python code in the background, and executes scheduled tasks.
It's clearly a dupe of Claude/Codex products (Codex especially, styling-wise), but I think Kimi's goal here is simply to appear on feature-parity with bigger labs. I doubt they'd want to invest much into designing a UI for "the future of agentic work" from the ground up.
Their bread and butter and claim-to-fame will continue to be low-cost, near-frontier models, for which they need to at least appear to have some app layer to plug into.
And, in some ways, duping is a great way to show people that even the app layer can be commoditized.