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hadlockyesterday at 5:18 PM3 repliesview on HN

I've had 2b models give a plausible Paris vacation itinerary. A tools-capable 12b and especially 30b model from 2026 is certainly capable of producing passable results. I was demonstrating the qwen 3.6 27b model I stood up last week to my wife and it gave her a passable Moroccan Chicken recipe. With tool calling (search) they're quite good.


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josephcooneyyesterday at 9:21 PM

I was on a long international flight recently with no internet and Google AI Edge Gallery installed on my phone with a 2.5GB quantized version of Gemma 4 on it. I was able to chat to it for a while and get some information about my destination which all turned out to be true and good advice.

alex43578yesterday at 5:39 PM

With OpenAI having released 20 and 120B models a while back, I think they recognized that tiny models were never going to be a defensible income stream.

Any value will come from the largest models, and those largest models are unlikely to ever run on consumer hardware within their window of relevancy.

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applicativeyesterday at 5:29 PM

It’s AI talking about AI so cum grano salis, but my AI is saying I would need at least a half million dollar in hardware to run the newer high quality Chinese models with bemchmark-competitive force.

You can run a Moroccan chicken fragment on the cheap in homage to what you cannot run