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jaggederestyesterday at 9:12 PM4 repliesview on HN

I am confused why they don't just offer a subscription with bring-your-own-harness, that would be a differentiator from claude/codex I think.


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bglusmanyesterday at 9:36 PM

Actually unless they’ve changed substantially Kimi kind of does this? It’s not as advertised/focused on and the API is a little nonstandard making it hard to plug some things into, but, unlike Claude they’ll actually give you an API key you can use directly as part of your unmetered subscription. I played with it for a month or two out of curiosity, it ls not a bad value though a bit brittle and stuff

john01davyesterday at 9:47 PM

The Chinese api prices are already so cheap that that is arguably not needed.

You can also get $10/month opencode go (which officially can be used with any harness) with basically every major open weight model running inference in a place that I deem more trustworthy than the subject-to-Chinese-law inference options (but research this for yourself, there are some asterisks). This is what I use (in opencode) when I want an agent for personal use. Even if I'm being fairly intense with my usage by my standards anyway), I haven't managed to run out (yet), although I usually use the cheaper models (deepseek v4 is my favorite, and I've used both flash and pro).

From the FAQ:

> The plan is designed primarily for international users, with models hosted in the US, EU, and Singapore for stable global access. Our providers follow a zero-retention policy and do not use your data for model training.

And:

> Yes, you can use Go with any agent. Follow the setup instructions in your preferred coding agent.

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wasfgwptoday at 6:19 AM

I think that pretty much all Chinese providers do that?

And Codex obviously allows that as well. Anthropic is pretty the main exception.

srousseyyesterday at 9:22 PM

Negative margins to have you hooked on someone else’s software?

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