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bee_ridertoday at 1:08 AM3 repliesview on HN

How do mathematicians view counter examples? Is it like an unexpected result in the physical sciences: annoying in the moment but potentially stupendously important as it reveals some inaccuracy in the current models? Or is it more like a bug report in coding… probably just, another little annoying detail?


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madhadrontoday at 1:13 AM

Counterexamples are clarifying. For everyone condition in a proof, it's really handy to have a maximally simple, memorable counterexample that makes it fail because it violates that condition. Mathematicians tend to walk around with a bestiary of counterexamples in their heads. It also makes it really easy to recover a theorem because you try to sketch out the statement, and the spiky, memorable counterexamples jump out of your memory and you add conditions to constrain the domain away from them.

unprovabletoday at 3:49 AM

There are pedagogical books (CF. 'Counterexamples in Topology', 'Counterexamples in Analysis') that teach the nuances of subjects through counterexamples. They're popular as it's sometimes easier to learn details from a pathology or degenerate example than from just learning what is intended.

mDyJzDPmBdGtoday at 12:32 PM

I am sure finding holes in existing proofs is what counts as "another little annoying detail". Some people are probably relieved when they have failed to prove a hypothesis and someone finds a counterexample.