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slashdavetoday at 3:45 PM2 repliesview on HN

Only if the company misleads and adds a backdoor to the front-end app (thus this entire discussion).

If the company is misleading, any encryption technology is irrelevant anyway.


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dd8601fntoday at 7:57 PM

The company can provide secure enclave and allow the architecture to be audited by third parties.

Which apple does.

It's largely academic though, as almost nobody opts-in to escalated e2e posture in apple services unless they're a high risk person (journalist, dissident, etc).

The headaches that come from e2e everything are too great for most people.

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IshKebabtoday at 4:40 PM

Yes that's exactly his point. E2E is often sold as preventing the owners of the server from being able to read the messages at all, even if they are evil and misleading you.

That's obviously only the case if they aren't also the sole providers of the "ends".

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