alt Hacker NewsIn terms of open models, Gemma 4 beats the pants off everything else to the point that paying for APIs becomes hard to justify. Qwen has the meme-share for coding, but it feels much less well rounded. I have no doubt that Google have both the infrastructure and the expertise to curb stomp everyone else, should they resolve in earnest to do so.
Lest we forget, "Attention is All You Need" came from Google.
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scottyah • yesterday at 9:14 PM
Interesting, glad to hear. We have gemma4 at work, and I was considering localhosting qwen, but gemma4 is so far behind the Opus and Fable I have at home that I've decided to hold off for another model release.
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ishurand4 • yesterday at 8:51 PM
How long until Gemma 5 hits?
> "Attention is All You Need" came from Google
It also came directly from the university of Toronto, and the university of Toronto seeded all American frontier labs (including Grok (why do you think they could start so fast))