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whimsicalismyesterday at 9:44 PM14 repliesview on HN

i think you need to engage seriously with the arguments they (or at least Anthropic) make for why they are building it — they feel that since it now possible, it will be built and they want to guide it in a positive direction rather than leave a vacuum for bad actors


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AshamedBadger56yesterday at 9:57 PM

Well they're doing a pretty poor job of guiding it in a positive direction and ethically speaking they are almost indistinguishable from the bad actors....

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i-LINKyesterday at 10:00 PM

I don't see why AI company PR statements are relevant here. Is OpenAI guiding it in a positive direction with their DoD contract?

0xDEAFBEADtoday at 8:44 AM

Dario has more or less assented to an AI development pause

https://xcancel.com/AISafetyMemes/status/2014018200325722348...

I don't think we should be running cover for continued reckless AI development.

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designerarvidtoday at 8:23 AM

What if someone reasoned similarly regarding hydrogen bombs? It would not be considered a serious argument.

Though, Altman has said that something like the IAEA for AI is needed.

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f6vtoday at 3:24 PM

> rather than leave a vacuum for bad actors

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cyclopeanutopiayesterday at 10:00 PM

Bad as defined by whom? :)

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nkrisctoday at 8:03 AM

That’s the absurd self-fulfilling prophecy it always has been.

paulhebertyesterday at 11:18 PM

It sure seems like it would be being built more slowly if these companies weren't pouring billions of dollars into building it as fast as possible.

That might give us more time to think through strategies for handling it as a society.

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Schlagbohrertoday at 9:23 AM

This is obvious marketing / PR bullshit. AI isn't inevitable, but we are told it is by the people who profit from building and using it and integrating it into everything.

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iAMkenoughtoday at 4:07 AM

That’s an excuse a bad actor would use.

ozozozdtoday at 2:53 AM

I was about to say “username checks out” but then realized it’s not Reddit.

And I am not sure if your comment can be explained by naivety, unless you were under a rock for the last year, and missed all the events that showed they are not capable of “being the one that guides it.”

How many accidental private source code uploads did you read about? I heard exactly one. It was Anthropic. It was so bizarre I thought it was intentional. That kind of unserious behavior is somewhat unimaginable.

At some point if you are not capable of fulfilling a role that _you deem critical for the society_, yet you don’t acknowledge you fall short - for whatever reason - because it’s not in your interest, I think the benefit of the doubt disappears.

nunodonatotoday at 8:13 AM

are these bad actors here in the room with us?

aerodexistoday at 1:57 PM

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yoyohello13today at 2:47 AM

If this is how the 'good guys' act I think I'd rather take my chances with the bad actors...

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