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mring33621yesterday at 6:16 PM1 replyview on HN

People that think the Chinese are only able to copy western tech are in for a wakeup call.

Actually, that has already happened in many domains, it's just that most western people (USA especially) won't admit it.


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kevinqiyesterday at 6:57 PM

my assertion isn't that china isn't able to surpass western AI. I think it may well happen. I've been to china many times and am well aware of how ahead they are in many technological/societal areas.

at the same time, I don't buy the idea that distillation is unimportant in assessing what Chinese labs are capable of. If it wasn't, why did Kimi's release timing coincide so well with Fable's launch?

and if Anthropic hadn't released Fable, would we have Kimi today? If the answer is no, then I think that's still a very important point to consider.

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