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throw10920today at 4:03 AM1 replyview on HN

> Anthropic's models simply do not give you their reasoning output - they give a sanitized "summary" instead, for this exact reason, so that the output is not useful to anyone who might want to use it for training.

This is just straight-up factually false.

The output of a reasoning model is immensely valuable even without the sanitized summary of the reasoning process - that Anthropic's service does expose to you, making it even more valuable.

There's absolutely nothing about the distillation process that requires that reasoning in the first place, either. That's a definition that you made up.

Chinese models are, factually, distilled from Anthropic models. I've personally repeatedly asked several different Chinese LLMs what their name is, and they answered "Claude".

Don't make stuff up to suit a political agenda. It's extremely dishonest.


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wasfgwptoday at 7:49 AM

Well there were observed cases of Claude calling itself Deepseek or Qwen. So pot calling the kettle black?

To be fair I find it hard to take this too seriously, shouldn’t it be trivial to just replace “Claude” with any other string in your “distillation” dataset?