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ch4s3yesterday at 3:46 PM7 repliesview on HN

US real median household income has been steadily rising[1] for the last 40+ years. Life expectancy is rising again after dipping and plateauing for a few years. Employment numbers are pretty good given the macro headwinds. The US forms ~5.9 million new businesses per year which vastly out paces the EU.

The US isn't without problems, but we're doing OK.

[1] https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MEHOINUSA672N

It's incredible that not a single person replying negatively has included a single piece of data.


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Someone1234yesterday at 3:52 PM

> US real median household income has been steadily rising[1] for the last 40+ years.

Yet have lower spending power because inflation outpaces it:

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CUUR0000SA0R

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Lyngbakryesterday at 3:58 PM

But I think there will be a lag. The US has (willingly) forfeited some of its soft power and we may not see the impact of that immediately.

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Balinaresyesterday at 4:09 PM

So many of my people in the US can't even make ends meet anymore that I opened a dedicated line of budget to provide help where I can. It's never been that bad before and it's nowhere near as bad for my people in the EU (not that everything is all rosy there, mind you).

You might argue that Americans are just less capable of supporting themselves but I reject that argument firmly. The situation really reads like systemic causes. And I think cherry picking numbers to convince ourselves otherwise does more harm than good.

barbazooyesterday at 4:02 PM

Maybe break down those numbers by income and you'll see that rich people are doing fine, everyone else not so much.

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lowbloodsugaryesterday at 3:55 PM

More people outside employment than COVID or Great Recession. Inflation wiping out income growth. Family units replaced by multi-job slavery shows up as “improved GDP”. There’s the powerball lottery that one person wins every few weeks and then there’s the crippling medical debt lottery that many people are “winning” every day. Wake up.

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rustcleaneryesterday at 7:00 PM

M2 outstrips it.

My favorite way to gauge historical prices/data is to scale it with M2:

(TradingView): M2SL[0]/M2SL*TICKER

Replace M2SL[0] with the latest M2 value. 23.05 T should be 23.05*10^12.

Compare SPX, GC1!, SI1!, CL1!, or any other TICKER you can think of!

Another cool little model I like to look at which starkly shows the loss of power for us little guys:

(TradingView): 23.05*10^12/M2SL*A4102C1Q027SBEA/(USPOP*CIVPART/100)

Basically in 1960 the average worker earned 3x the purchasing power from their wages compared to today.

TL;DR: Ron Paul was right!

tokaiyesterday at 4:37 PM

>Life expectancy is rising again after dipping and plateauing for a few years

Life expectancy dipping for any develop country, even if temporary, is an embarrassing catastrophe.

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