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andsoitistoday at 6:25 PM2 repliesview on HN

Why isn’t there a competitive US or European open weights model?


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frollogastontoday at 7:54 PM

The Chinese open weights models are copies of the American closed ones. Nobody in the US is trying to do that, I guess.

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cookiengineertoday at 7:54 PM

Europe is actually catching up right now. Not at the frontier like kimi and qwen 3.6 (yet) but it's just a matter of time until the European A3B models catch up, too.

Apertus and Soofi, both open source (not only open weight) models:

[1] https://apertus.ai/en/apps/apertus-model/

[2] https://www.soofi.info/