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scoofyyesterday at 8:27 PM5 repliesview on HN

"Both sides are the same" is the last bastion of denial. The right picked a lemon, and now are trying to cope instead of coming to terms with it.

(and god forbid they actually try to fix the problem with the tools the founders gave them)


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BobbyTables2today at 4:09 AM

Don’t dis the lemon!

It’s got electrolytes!

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mythrwyyesterday at 8:32 PM

I didn't say "Both sides are the same". I said both candidates were morons.

As far as terms, I don't like really like either side we have on the menu right now.

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chucksmashyesterday at 9:26 PM

The world is full of nuance. Just like whataboutism and "both sides" can be convenient rhetorical devices for people lying to themselves or others, accusing someone of either can be a convenient figleaf for avoiding thinking about the flaws of one's own side.

The fact that Trump won in 2016 obviously overshadowed many things about that election. I didn't vote for him but I can still remember acutely the disappointment I felt during the primaries when the presumptive frontrunners were another Clinton and another Bush. Like out of 300 million people, these will be the choices presented to me? Whataboutism is bad mkay, but two things can also be true at the same time. Nuance.

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csomartoday at 1:18 AM

I'd say if I have to chose between a moron and a corrupt moron, I'd say let the whole thing collapse. The "world burning" because one of the two parties can't get elected is a bunch of bs. The whole thing is a sham and trying to get people to vote because the other party is worse just shows how bad you are.

pessimizeryesterday at 9:13 PM

> "Both sides are the same" is the last bastion of denial.

This is hyperpartisan bullshit that you obviously wouldn't say if someone were choosing between a red shirt and a blue shirt. If you support some political candidate, defend them on the merits of their positions and capabilities, not by repeating content-free jingles.

Or even worse, based on unexplored counterfactuals: "X" did this, don't you wish you picked "Y"? As if the fact that the red shirt turned out to be flammable means that the blue shirt wouldn't have been. Then when somebody points out that the labels are the same, "whataboutism!"

Even "the last bastion" is just a cynical flourish to associate this sentiment with a saying that has value to people on its own merits.

> cope

And this is twitter/online addiction. With an opposition like this, Trump will be president until the heart attack kills him. Addicted to self-regard.

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