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ameliustoday at 11:07 AM7 repliesview on HN

> First-contact consent: an unknown sender doesn't get into the mailbox; they land in a "requests" box with their first message visible (like Signal's message requests). You accept, and the thread opens forever. A stranger can knock on your door, which is the essential property of mail, but they can't fill up your living room.

I like this.

Question: can this e-mail specification/implementation also replace direct-messaging protocols (like WhatsApp)?


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TheOtherHobbestoday at 2:29 PM

The unknown request will be buried in spam - a problem we have already, but worse.

And I do not want an infinite thread conversation. I want to be able to split off - and perhaps archive and export - different conversations by topic.

I recently had to some legal things, which included forwarding copies of a certain conversation to a lawyer. This turns out to be unreasonably difficult because email clients quote previous conversations. You want a clean thread of comment and reply about a specific topic. You don't get that.

You do get it on chat services, but there's no option there to create sub-conversations.

If I was redesigning email I would think long and hard about different use cases and workflows and start with an RFC. Protocols are far downstream of that.

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BeetleBtoday at 8:24 PM

I (and many others) do this:

https://blog.nawaz.org/posts/2018/Sep/solving-my-email-probl...

(Not answering your question, but referring to the approach).

aboardRat4today at 1:59 PM

>Question: can this e-mail specification/implementation also replace direct-messaging protocols (like WhatsApp)?

Deltachat

MrGilberttoday at 12:36 PM

> I like this.

Honestly, I'd want this as a default. I wonder if a mailserver can be configure like this. Doesn't sound too hard, does it?

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dzongatoday at 5:10 PM

other email clients/services like Hey etc do this.

at one point Gmail had a service for this - if I remember well - but google being google - I guess it was just a promotion project for someone.

fnytoday at 11:17 AM

Is there any reason they shouldn't be the same?

xd1936today at 11:36 AM

This is the way hey.com operates. It's nice.