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ianm218yesterday at 11:19 AM1 replyview on HN

What are you arguing against? He doesn’t advocate for a ban on Chinese open source or non Chinese open source.


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abotsisyesterday at 3:52 PM

I’m simply making the point that any model can be abliterated to sidestep guardrails. It’s similar to the argument that open source software like nmap or netcat shouldn’t be allowed because it can be used for evil.

To continue the analogy, he’s basically asking for some magic guardrails in nmap that doesn’t allow it to be used for scanning a network you don’t own. Of course even if you could add that- you could modify the source to bypass it.

It’s basically “open weight models are a public good if you can guarantee safety” .. which you can’t. So the only viable alternative is a hosted nmap that requires you to prove you own a network before scanning it. Which is impossible. So it’s all the right words and sounds nice, but making an impossible ask.

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