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NitpickLawyertoday at 6:25 AM4 repliesview on HN

This is more exciting than k3, IMO. Dsv4 models are extremely cheap to serve. Improving their capabilities has lots of downstream effects, as it becomes "good enough" for more and more tasks.

DS was serving the pro version at extremely low prices for a long time, and they've had integrations with opencode & other providers, so they likely gathered a lot of data from real developers doing real tasks (on openrouter they were labeled as such). Now they can use those live scenarios to further post-train their models and improve them further.

Can't wait to see if distilling k3 into dsv4 brings additional improvements. Anyway, having fast cheap models getting better is great for the community. Especially since these don't "go away" on a provider's whim. Whatever capabilities they get, can be used "forever" going forward. And, at least flash can be ran "at home" with <10k in hardware, which isn't really possible / feasible with glm/k3 larger models.


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dotancohentoday at 5:33 PM

  > Whatever capabilities they get, can be used "forever" going forward.
"Forever" gets the scare quotes because it is implied only up until the Butlerian Jihad?
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chorizotoday at 3:07 PM

Starting to wonder if the free big pickle model on opencode has been DSV4F0731 for the past few months. It’s been incredibly fast and good.

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dnhkngtoday at 6:41 AM

Totally! This with DwarfStar delivers usable local AI (I hope!)

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KaseyKimtoday at 9:42 AM

hope that deepseek become better

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