logoalt Hacker News

My personal AI benchmark: "Generate an SVG of a frog with a Habsburg jaw."

75 pointsby thebigshiptoday at 7:42 PM41 commentsview on HN

Comments

hn_throwaway_99today at 8:32 PM

I thought this was great, and hilarious. Kudos to Opus 5, I thought it was the only one that came close to passing. Interestingly, I thought many of the failures drew the frog face OK, and they had some type of big blob for the jaw, so they knew "Hapsburg jaw" meant a protruding jaw, but it wasn't really connected to the frog face in any way that made sense.

Small side note, the first gemini-2.5-pro one totally reminded me of some sad faced meme or Pepe the frog from somewhere. Anyone know what I'm referring to, tried to find it.

show 1 reply
NemoNobodytoday at 10:54 PM

This is excellent - some of the best research I've seen yet regarding AI, demonstrating immediately what it can't do and what it does do - both are unarguably problematic and have nothing to do with it being self-aware, skynet or the end of all of our jobs.

Still does generate odd looking frogs too - even added a few creative flourishes, based entirely on assumptions, which is very important to note whenever interacting with AI - necessary even if one is going to use them for actual work.

AI, as is, remains one of the best tools humans have ever created but it's really not human and is always delivering to us what it thinks we want as the primary goal in every interaction.

Even if incapable of delivering what was asked of it - it will still answer, confidently, regardless of whether or not the answer is correct, heavily biased or humorously wrong. This is a valuable lesson in a simple, and hopefully self-evident, package.

Seriously, very well done - I will occasionally be sending people to your site for the foreseeable future, I appreciate your work!

thebigshiptoday at 8:47 PM

Hi all, the site is getting hugged to death, thank you, was not expecting this kind of warm response. I will be working to make this more reliable, in the meantime, sign up for my newsletter: https://www.jaymollica.com/blog/

also my favorite SVG was def the google/gemini-3.6-flash

edit: ok better now I think

show 1 reply
riazrizvitoday at 10:41 PM

The secret to great interview questions and challenge tests is keeping them secret. Posting them on HN and getting them onto the front page puts them in jeopardy.

wren6991today at 9:04 PM

Opus 5 clearly frogmaxxed.

gemini-3.6-flash runs 2 and 3 responded best to the royal portrait context.

show 2 replies
ianberdintoday at 10:05 PM

Check out my MacBook SVG benchmark. From my experience, it demonstrates the Real model’s behavior. However, I notice the errors it makes, which are similar to the mistakes made by the mistake model in code.

https://playcode.io/blog/macbook-svg-benchmark

evan_today at 9:28 PM

Hopsburg Jaw

ricardobeattoday at 10:06 PM

Gemini 2.5 Pro fails, but has a distinctive art style that is quite nice. It seems to understand shading to a much higher level than all other models.

k1etoday at 10:38 PM

No gpt-5.6 sol and no fable?

rush86999today at 9:20 PM

It's opus 5 > Kimi K3 > grok 4.5

That's a pretty good benchmark

getnormalitytoday at 8:28 PM

This is a strong benchmark! None of these could be remotely mistaken for human art. Opus 5 comes closest.

gerdesjtoday at 9:56 PM

Please could we have a human generated image to compare the AI generated tosh with?

dehrmanntoday at 8:50 PM

How do models approach SVG generation? In one version, I imagine them actually trying to reason about them as an LLM. In another, I imagine something closer to a GAN.

throwuxiytayqtoday at 10:26 PM

My personal human benchmark: "Jump on one leg, while reciting the national anthem of Latvia, translated to Spanish, backwards, while drawing a frog with a brush held by toes of the other leg, on the ceiling". So far they're not doing very good but I'm sure they'll improve over time.

show 1 reply
linksnapzztoday at 8:51 PM

A friend’s favorite prompt is “Batman & Julia Child; in the kitchen laughing at a ham”. Sounds simple, but has been surprisingly tough.

show 1 reply
MiroslavPokornytoday at 9:46 PM

My test is to ask AI to pick up all the rubbish at the beach.

show 1 reply
csomartoday at 10:39 PM

Here is GLM 5.2 (https://codeinput.com/s/HAO0qTxw2ia) which is still inferior to Opus. I can't find Qwen 3.8 which now is my daily driver replacing GLM. This SVG test matches my experience when working with the different models. The other models can get the details right but their output is structured in a way that makes little or no sense.

I also did a timeline from 4.7 to 5.2: https://codeinput.com/s/7oK2IIA7qRO The improvements in models looks much less impressive with this test.

leumontoday at 8:39 PM

Can you also try the new deepseek v4 flash?

show 1 reply
epolanskitoday at 10:20 PM

I don't get the point of these benchmarks, what are they supposed to represent practically?

show 2 replies
epolanskitoday at 9:37 PM

Gemini 3.6 flash is crazy good.

Would've wanted to see also DS4 flash.

show 1 reply
troupotoday at 8:50 PM

Mine is any variations on mammoths in various situations, or anthropomorphic. Since mammoths are invariably majestically going from one place to another in any of the books, models have hard time imagining anything but that.

Also try a fantasy archer with a proper bow who is not brooding, sitting in a fantasy wood :)

thebigshiptoday at 7:42 PM

I think this one has advantages over the “pelican riding a bicycle” one because it hinges on an anatomical feature that many models associate with royalty, “habsburg” being a lineage and “habsburg jaw” being an anatomical feature.

Seven of fourteen models silently imported royalty into a prompt that named only an anatomical feature. Two of them knew they were extrapolating ("because Habsburg") and did it anyway.

Mistral returned byte-identical output across separate calls.

Gemini narrates its work in 65 comments; Llama says nothing.

If you're deciding which model to trust with instructions, "how much does it embellish beyond what I asked" and "does it behave deterministically" are directly practical questions.

show 2 replies
sixtyjtoday at 8:23 PM

For those who don’t know a Habsburg jaw also known as mandibular prognathism, it is a genetic condition characterized by a protruding lower jaw, which was notably prevalent among members of the Habsburg royal family due to their history of inbreeding. This condition often resulted in significant facial deformities and difficulties with eating and speaking.

kindawindatoday at 9:49 PM

[flagged]