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steve1977yesterday at 7:58 PM3 repliesview on HN

I think the problem with SwiftUI in a way was (or is) that Cocoa was so good. And, at least IMHO, it didn't need replacing, just improving.

But I feel like Apple wanted to appeal to young web devs and tried to offer something more similar to what these are used to.


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monster_truckyesterday at 8:12 PM

Totally agreed. I kind of figured things were going to get shitty when the guy who made autolayout got hounded on so hard that he left.

I sure hope they can figure out a way through. Whatever it is, SwiftUI isn't it.

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lilbigdoottoday at 6:55 AM

I never really tried out Cocoa. What did you like about it?

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refulgentisyesterday at 8:20 PM

It’s a seductive idea, but it displaces who is responsible for the poor framework development onto users of the framework.

It’s easy to say they were just trying to be trendy and thus the real flaw was the trend is bad and the fault of worse devs than us (the young web devs mentioned)

The thing that obviates that is the trendy stuff works, yet, SwiftUI doesn’t.

(source: I wrote ObjC/Cocoa as early as 2006, and switched to Flutter as my primary dev kit some years ago: it simply doesn’t have the performance issues mentioned.)

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