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dwaiteyesterday at 4:27 PM0 repliesview on HN

> and leave the archaic and the weird things behind.

The number one archiac/weird thing was message passing instead of methods. Number two was square brackets for message passing.

What would be left of Objective-C once these were left behind?

> and it is failing to gain any traction outside iOS / Apple's ecosystem.

Objective-C was on a path to gain serious traction outside of the Apple ecosystem?