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dmazzonitoday at 2:33 AM4 repliesview on HN

As opposed to what?

If you ask a non-programmer to install Claude Code, just installing it will be a challenge, then opening the shell and interacting with it. Things as simple as copying and pasting can present roadblocks if you've never used a shell before, and things intuitive to programmers like using up-arrow to go back to a previous prompt would never occur to someone in the field.

Claude Code seems so simple and natural of a UI to programmers, it's easy to forget how much it builds on.


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matthew-wegnertoday at 3:32 AM

Zoom out one step. The experiment should have been searching for "build website with AI", or "build website with <product name>", not "hey use this very specific UI to do something I know will fail"

(FWIW I think people betting their whole companies on AI are trusting shitty one-wish genie goblins, but the terrible irony is that anyone "technical" with years-old knowledge is talking about something else entirely in today's context)

sothatsittoday at 3:36 AM

Claude Cowork is the application aimed at non-developers that gives them a lot of the same functionality. My girlfriend uses it and has gotten quite far in producing her own software.

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losvedirtoday at 12:39 PM

With Claude it's actually not that hard. I set up a system for a startup where devs used a full dev environment and non-devs could use the Claude web UI to open rougher PRs, and one of the non-devs asked me what was involved with getting a full dev environment set up, so Claude could iterate and he could test locally, which was faster than the "push to GitHub, use the Vercel/Supabase preview deployment" workflow he was using.

I gave him a link to Ghostty, a link to the claude code copy/paste pipe to bash thing, told him how to cd/ls/pwd into the folder he had locally from the GitHub app, and he was off to the races. I told him to type `claude` to open Claude Code in the terminal and gave him a prompt to use about being a non-dev getting his environment set up to the point of being able to pnpm dev and test, and Claude took it from there. The repo's readme had a setup section which it followed to install brew, asdf, pnpm, etc. With the GitHub MCP he's now opening PRs the same way devs do.

wilgtoday at 2:42 AM

The terminal? No way, the normal Claude or ChatGPT desktop app.