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OkayPhysicistyesterday at 5:59 PM2 repliesview on HN

Whenever the "tens of millions killed by communism" number gets trotted out, it's invariably considering everybody who died due to lack of assigned resources under communism. Which is fine, but it means you need to go over to the west and count up all the people who died of preventable means (not to mention making per-capita adjustments) as well for a fair point of comparison.

Every person who died of preventable illness because they couldn't afford healthcare? Death by capitalism. Every dude who puts a bullet in their head because of financial strain? Death by capitalism. Every person who's ever died of complications of malnutrition while their country exports food (the U.K., large swathes of Africa).

Numbers are meaningless when you don't put them in context.


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TimTheTinkeryesterday at 10:25 PM

> it's invariably considering everybody who died due to lack of assigned resources under communism

You mean, those who were forcibly starved by their government, those who were forcibly murdered and displaced by their government, and those who were put into forced labor "re-education" work camps by their government.

I'm not talking about the baseline of human problems and suffering that is everywhere -- that's not communism's fault. Communism is responsible for the large increase in death rate following a country's fall to it, and especially for the murders it commits (literally shooting, hanging, decapitating, working to death in gulags, etc., as well as imprisoning and persecuting dissidents and mass theft of peoples' property leading to mass poverty).

The vast power communist leaders hold always corrupts them and turns them into monsters.

> go over to the west and count up all the people who died of preventable means

> Death by capitalism.

You might as well say that everyone in a family who had a preventable death experienced "death by family". Or that everyone with an employer who had a preventable death experienced "death by employer".

It's not other people's job to prevent a given person's misfortune.

> Every person who's ever died of complications of malnutrition while their country exports food

That's due to government corruption more than anything else. Government officials should be held accountable and prosecuted.

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inigyouyesterday at 8:21 PM

IIRC it comes out to over a billion deaths.