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cjbarbertoday at 4:59 PM16 repliesview on HN

From Jeff's twitter post:

> Our general approach is to automate the experimental loop. We think this approach is broadly applicable across many different fields of science and engineering. We’ll initially focus on ML research and engineering, but believe the approach can help with important subproblems in nearly every one of the fourteen <at>NAE Grand Challenge problems. We think doing this well requires strong expertise in machine learning as well as large-scale systems.

See also: https://www.nae.edu/20782/grand-challenges-project

Those 14 are:

NAE Grand Challenges for Engineering

1. Make Solar Energy Economical

2. Provide Energy from Fusion

3. Develop Carbon Sequestration Methods

4. Manage the Nitrogen Cycle

5. Provide Access to Clean Water

6. Restore and Improve Urban Infrastructure

7. Advance Health Informatics

8. Engineer Better Medicines

9. Reverse Engineer the Brain

10. Prevent Nuclear Terror

11. Secure Cyberspace

12. Enhance Virtual Reality

13. Advance Personalized Learning

14. Engineer the Tools of Scientific Discovery


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belochtoday at 8:02 PM

They make many bold promises, but their core goal is neatly encapsulated on the website:

"Imagine a future where a handful of people can conduct scientific research and engineering tasks much more rapidly, and with higher quality, than massive teams of scientists and engineers do today."

This is the same goal as every other AI company out there. Automate away the human employees and let a small number of "people" (note that they do not say scientists or engineers for this part) take the credit and financial rewards for every good thing this human-free system produces.

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Sivart13today at 6:09 PM

The solution to most of these problems lies in policy, not in new tech advancements.

Maybe if our biggest companies did something other than suck up to science denying wackos, some progress could be made in these areas.

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delta_p_delta_xtoday at 8:43 PM

> Provide Access to Clean Water

??? We don't need any AI for this.

Start with separated sewage/wastewater and stormwater drains. Then accredited and highly scrutinised wastewater treatment and discharge into water bodies (or see below for a high-tech solution). As for clean water to the home, direct those stormwater drains to new reservoirs which sustain freshwater aquatic life. Protect aquifers from over-drainage, and build pipelines from water-abundant regions to water-scarce regions.

To reclaim waste water or treat unknown water sources back to potable/semiconductor standards we have ultrafiltration, reverse osmosis, UV treatment, pH adjustment, fluoridation, desalination, softening (which is generally obviated by RO...). This is basically Singapore's NEWater.

Good sanitation is a financial and political problem. The engineering has been solved for decades now.

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darth_avocadotoday at 6:30 PM

> Make Solar Energy Economical

Isn’t it already?

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LogicFailsMetoday at 5:39 PM

Sandbox 2.0

But also, solar power is already economical.

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koolalatoday at 6:04 PM

Room Temperature Ambient Pressure Super Conductors

vovavilitoday at 7:02 PM

Very honorable effort, but a lot of these seem to touch heavily regulated industries impeded by unwise or outdated policy no less than by the lack of clever engineering - medicine, education, urbanism, energy. I wonder if they've given some thought to the key blocking factor as well.

epicureanidealtoday at 6:05 PM

Would be great if they'd add:

Reverse human aging.

(Maybe a sub-topic under "Engineer Better Medicines".)

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dbgrmantoday at 6:08 PM

Why is "12. Enhance Virtual Reality" in there? T_T

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zahlmantoday at 8:39 PM

In what sense is solar energy not already economical?

dgellowtoday at 7:06 PM

Such a weird list. How is preventing nuclear terror an engineering problem?

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lovlartoday at 6:23 PM

> 9. Reverse Engineer the Brain

For what purpose? To replace humans? To make social media more addictive? To master brain manipulation?

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sajithdilshantoday at 6:12 PM

I would say 5, 6, 10 can be even done today if we had right politicians that can make policies for the people

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mrdependabletoday at 6:06 PM

Which engineering discipline touches most of these?

la64710today at 5:53 PM

Please add fixing neuro issues like autism add etc on the list. It creates a huge burden on families.

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tcp_handshakertoday at 5:16 PM

Acquisition back by Google in 3 years, with nothing to show for it. VCs will make a ton.

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