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develoopesttoday at 11:34 AM12 repliesview on HN

I don't understand why ensuring general-purpose computing is not a priority of the European Union.

All that talk about sovereignty, and we are giving full control of our digital lives to 2 American companies.


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littlecranky67today at 1:55 PM

Because the EU wants attestation for age verification, digital surveillance and censorship, not free software platforms that wont implement any of those.

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vincnetastoday at 12:14 PM

Well that was the original android phone idea. Get a hackable open device that you can write apps for your self. Even attach third party hardware to it for extra functionality with lots of customisation. But this idea has mutated quite a bit.

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inigyoutoday at 11:40 AM

It's a regulated market economy. Someone has to actually make the product. They can't force someone to make a product.

There's MNT in the EU.

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yorwbatoday at 12:08 PM

There is no shortage of general-purpose computing hardware in the EU. If you need some general-purpose compute to make a car, an oven, or a phone, you can get it. That consumers mostly buy special-purpose devices that don't always allow them to make full use of the possibilities of the hardware is hardly a sovereignity challenge.

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927373912092today at 1:36 PM

Sovereignity of the EU regime, not of their subjects.

Why would these corrupt bureacrats give up their full control over the lives of those who didn't elect them?

vlyantoday at 1:09 PM

why do you still believe that EU is a benevolent entity?

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petratoday at 12:33 PM

I'm sure Europe currently uses the surveillance capabilities of those systems to prevent bad shit from happening.

So maybe they prefer another solution to the sovereignty issue.

fsflovertoday at 3:33 PM

Because the Free Software Foundation Europe (https://fsfe.org) that fights for this has a too low support of people. Please support them if you care about it.

okanattoday at 2:17 PM

There is actually a law being made called Digital Fairness Act at the moment. However the working group hasn't finalized it yet.

Note that there are competing political groups and MEPs in the EU from far right neo-fascists, to corporate lobbyist right-wingers, to Greens and even digital privacy maximalist Pirates.

Lobbyist right-wingers are now the biggest group and they pass laws like Chat Control because it gives the impression that they do something and it makes corporations money. EU has been founded as a maximally neo-liberal union. The broad human rights are remnants of the Soviet scare and world-war trauma.

legasteniggatoday at 1:28 PM

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pitchlattetoday at 12:02 PM

yeah but processors phone home anyway at a level beneath the OS and there’s no european chip development worth mentioning. so i’m not sure real sovereignty is ever going to be possible. crazy considering ASML being in europe.

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