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Cider9986today at 11:53 AM5 repliesview on HN

GrapheneOS has minimal, private [1] system apps so you don't have to debloat anything yourself. Manual debloating is not a good solution at the user level.

Some system apps are being overhauled, so that's something to look forward to. Gallery will be [2] based on ReFra [3].

[1] Except phone and messaging but that's the cell network.

GrapheneOS recommends Signal/Molly or SimpleX instead.

[2] https://nitter.net/GrapheneOS/status/2083724696722301266#m

[3] https://github.com/IacobIonut01/ReFra


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Elfenertoday at 12:09 PM

GrapheneOS or other custom ROMs don't solve the actual problem that you can't just buy a smartphone and install any operating system like you can with an actual computer, despite technically being one.

Also, GrapheneOS supports device attestation (the non-google kind at least), which is still ridiculous as such systems have no benefit to people, only to technofeudalist corporations.

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mrbn100fultoday at 12:00 PM

What does GrapheneOS have to do with this?

This is very useful on OEM ROMs with a bunch of scrapware, no one expects a custom ROM to have this issue.

belowavgiqtoday at 1:55 PM

GrapheneOS has got absolutely nothing to do with any of this. LineageOS, pure AOSP, are all the same. No bloat, no locks. The way they've successfully marketed a more involved custom ROM as a special OS to tech illiterates is very funny I'll admit.

nicman23today at 12:04 PM

in grapheneOS you can disable or uninstall almost everything without adb anyways

nekusartoday at 12:37 PM

And Graphene OS is also anti-user by being tremendously rude about NOT providing root and using the same tired "suck-u-rity" crap Google and Apple also use.

If you're smart enough to buy a phone that supports GrapheneOS, AND install it, yeah you should have root.

And tools like XPrivacy and plugins allow control of subsystems like GPS spoofing and lying to apps.

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