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inigyouyesterday at 3:52 PM1 replyview on HN

If the EU government told a group of academics "hey, go make a phone" it wouldn't have mass surveillance. If it insisted on being closely involved in the process, then it would.


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mosurayesterday at 7:17 PM

Do you think you would be allowed to sell such a phone to normal people in any serious quantity? (I know HN people get delusional about using laptops as mobile phones, but here is a hint: you wouldn’t. You would be hauled up for enabling distribution of CSAM etc until you stopped).

Look at how they treat Graphene, and that is an afternarket mod niche.

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