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kingstnaptoday at 7:31 PM3 repliesview on HN

Its always fun to try to read between the lines here to speculate why they are doing this.

Maybe Luna efficiency gain was actually significant enough that putting all the free users and giving them super generous limits makes sense.

They might be doing this to improve the messaging of AI among causal users since right now there is a huge amount of datacenter backlash in the US due to AI grievances.

Maybe they have too much excess capacity or they really want to juice token numbers and market share on their dashboards for marketing.

I also wonder if being given access to an actually a decent model like luna with actual thinking budget instead of brainless "instant" modes will start to make causal users understand the real capabilities of these models.


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deanctoday at 7:39 PM

It's also going to be more training data for them.

ToValueFunfettitoday at 7:44 PM

Is this new behavior from them? I haven't looked at their free chat offering in a minute, but I thought they always had them close behind paid tier, often with essentially equal products that made it weird for them to sell the paid tier for chat.

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simianwordstoday at 8:00 PM

> Maybe Luna efficiency gain was actually significant enough that putting all the free users and giving them super generous limits makes sense.

Definitely this. The recent 80% discount was a reaction to Deepseek's update so that they still position near the frontier. My theory: Luna has always had a much higher efficiency. You do know that the model didn't get faster after the discount?