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Kitesurf: Agent-first browser that runs in V8 isolates

173 pointsby m3hyesterday at 10:42 AM45 commentsview on HN

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nicoburnsyesterday at 2:00 PM

This is built on top of Blitz (https://github.com/dioxuslabs/blitz): a new modular (open source) browser engine that I've been building for the last 2.5 years.

(I wasn't involved in building kitesurf, but I am informed that they intend to open source and upstream their patches)

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minrawsyesterday at 10:09 PM

I am not against the idea but Cloudflare should honestly split itself and spinoff the CDN and DDOS/Cybersecurity company if it's also going to do agents.

These two feel like they are opposing teams, I don't think they are colluding today, but how long will that last, this seems very suspicious I say that as a long time cloudflare user, I welcome making the platform agent friendly and adding agent specific deployment cloud stuff like Cloudflare OS is something I can live with as well.

But this is going a bit too far, what's next AI bot net to scrape content from sites protected by Cloudflare? I don't want to sound entitled but man do we deserve better.

QuantumNomad_yesterday at 1:40 PM

From the page https://developers.cloudflare.com/browser-run/ linked to from this article:

> Run headless Chrome on Cloudflare's global network for browser automation, web scraping, testing, and content generation.

Does Cloudflare the CDN allow these browser instances to bypass their own anti-bot mechanisms? Or will Cloudflare the CDN block them the same as if someone was running scraping bots from a different provider?

Will Kitesurf in Cloudflare workers get special bypass privileges to content protected by Cloudflare the CDN?

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ElijahLynntoday at 3:00 AM

Just to throw in the context window, another agentic browser (headless): https://lightpanda.io/

cautiouscatyesterday at 3:15 PM

Can someone give me examples of where you use agents in your browser? I’ve heard executive leaders tout that “people use agents to buy things for them” but I haven’t actually seen that.

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akoyesterday at 9:58 PM

Kitesurfing is so last decade, this decade is all about wingfoiling and parawinging.

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Hexclesyesterday at 6:38 PM

It's nice to see wpt.fyi was used to help with the verification of this new browser! Also BiDi can't come fast enough.

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fukaiallyesterday at 4:24 PM

Seems like Cloudflare only writes Rust these days…

tonyriceyesterday at 7:26 PM

This reminds me of PhantomJS

TheRealPomaxtoday at 1:46 AM

But then the obvious next question is: is it still a browser, then? In the same vein as asking whether a tool that can extract data from PDF files is a "PDF Reader" (probably not) or a tool that runs a game demo for benchmarking purposes is still "the actual game" (definitely not).

It's a web data tool, but as something not used for browsing, by definition this is not a browser.

dupontcyborgyesterday at 8:01 PM

kinda meta to have a js engine built in rust, compiled to wasm, running in cloudflare workers which itself is another js engine (v8 isolates)

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Hexclesyesterday at 6:40 PM

Now that OpenAI basically abondoned Atlas, which had a truly novel architecture, let's see if this more obvious technical route (not saying this to diminish the achievement!) would gain traction.

scotty79yesterday at 11:04 PM

Huge chunk of internet already moved to CloudFlare. It's only reasonable to move the browsers there too. If the traffic doesn't leave CloudFlare it's huge saving for them.

zuzululuyesterday at 2:59 PM

wish it was open source so it can be run locally

a welcome addition although it'd be very easy for websites to fingerprint and block

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LetsGetTechniclyesterday at 2:37 PM

Ugh

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