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corticyesterday at 5:53 PM19 repliesview on HN

Taxi Drivers: The mean age at death is approximately 67.8 years.

General Population: in the same dataset, life expectancy averaged 74 years.

The average age at which patients are typically diagnosed with Alzheimer's disease is 79.

People in these jobs don't live long enough on average to get diagnosed, at the same rate. The same effect will happen in any job that lowers your life expectancy.


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stymaartoday at 3:08 AM

It pains me to see such a low-effort contrarian comment at the top: as stated in TFA taxi drivers are below other profession when controlling for age, and there are multiple professions with lower life expectancy that still have significantly higher Alzheimer rate than taxi drivers.

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cyanmoonxtoday at 3:31 AM

Isn't the mean age simply brought down by the number who die at a very young age due to car accidents, robberies, and other reasons?

Not that cab drivers only live to 67 - many would still live to 75, 85, 95, but that occasionally a driver dies at 25 or 35 bringing the mean figure way down.

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xvedejasyesterday at 9:32 PM

And how would you control for the causal possibility that those who will eventually develop Alzheimer's early on might tend to have undetectable memory issues that prevent them from becoming taxi drivers in the first place? You can't control for profession, since that's behind the very claim itself.

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harrallyesterday at 9:08 PM

The study accounts for that.

Delay your aging by using your brain a fuck ton, all the time, learning brand new things nowhere near anything you already know.

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specprocyesterday at 8:25 PM

Studies typically use regression to account for stuff like that. CBA to look at the article, but I bet any money that's controlled for.

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christophilusyesterday at 11:51 PM

Yep. Free solo climbers also rarely die of Alzheimer’s.

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Barrin92yesterday at 6:14 PM

As the paper points out that's accounted for in the analysis, because shockingly enough to most internet commentators researchers know that they need to control for confounding variables

https://www.bmj.com/content/387/bmj-2024-082194

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glitchcyesterday at 6:19 PM

They are likely studying individuals that retired without getting fatally stabbed or shot on the job.

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cromkayesterday at 7:30 PM

" (...) After adjusting for _age_, sex, race, ethnicity and education, roughly 1 in 100 taxi and ambulance drivers died of Alzheimer’s, compared with 1 in 60 people overall."

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fsckboytoday at 12:09 AM

>People in these jobs don't live long enough on average to get diagnosed

not to mention the other devil in these studies: some professions are statistically going to have the lowest rate of every possible disease. you can't just cherrypick outliers and declare "causal!"

nephihahayesterday at 11:35 PM

>Taxi Drivers: The mean age at death is approximately 67.8 years.

Where? What country/ies?

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TacticalCoderyesterday at 6:05 PM

That's very interesting but why do taxi drivers have a job that lowers life expectancy? Is it because they're sitting too much? Or because they're inhaling CO from cars too much? Or staying inside (the car) too much? Or is it just stressful?

For from the look of it it doesn't look like an exceptionally hard job (btw a brother of mine did years of "VTC": "Vehicule de Tourisme avec Chauffeur", basically high-end taxis without the "taxi" logo).

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mplewistoday at 3:16 AM

did you read the study

coldteayesterday at 7:39 PM

Ah, the typical cheap HN reaction to a paper, along with "correlation is not causation", and as usual, for things already factored in into it.

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nuxiyesterday at 7:00 PM

De Niro is 82, no Alzheimer's. /s

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aaron695today at 12:20 AM

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