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ETH_startyesterday at 6:00 PM4 repliesview on HN

The government has expanded by any objective measure:

From 20% of GDP to 40% of GDP today

From a 34 regulatory agencies/offices to 77 today.

From 5 percent of occupations needing a license in 1950 to 23 percent today

From zero federal environmental review in 1950 to 26 months today for major projects.

From almost zero collective bargaining agreements in the public sector in 1950 to approximately 36 percent of public sector workers being covered by them today.

From 9,700 pages in the Code of Federal Regulations in 1950 to 200,000 pages today.

This idea that the private sector is crowding out the government isn't supported by any empirical evidence, though it's a very common narrative and widely believed.


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triceratopsyesterday at 9:49 PM

> From 5 percent of occupations needing a license in 1950 to 23 percent today

Most of these are state-level though?

> From zero federal environmental review in 1950 to 26 months today for major projects

That's because they didn't give a shit about the environment in the 50s. They just yeeted nukes (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nevada_Test_Site) and people watched them from the Las Vegas strip. One river caught on fire 14 times holy mackerel: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuyahoga_River.

> From 9,700 pages in the Code of Federal Regulations in 1950 to 200,000 pages today.

That doesn't tell us anything. There's just more stuff today that simply didn't exist in 1950.

It's possible the regulation dial has been turned too far the other way. But arguing for going back to 0 regulations is also insanity.

2OEH8eoCRo0yesterday at 8:44 PM

> From 20% of GDP to 40% of GDP today

Yeah, let's cut where all that spending went- medicaid, medicare, social security, and welfare...oh

How do you cut any of these without everyone losing their minds?

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snowpidyesterday at 6:59 PM

Which government has expanded? Most communist governments felt after 1990 and privatised their economies.

fliryesterday at 6:05 PM

So you're saying it's improved.

(If you're not, I think you have to explain why the expansion of between say, 6k YBP and 1950 was good expansion, and the growth between 1950 and today was bad expansion. Otherwise it looks like you're picking an arbitrary point and saying it was "best")

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