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miyojiyesterday at 10:13 PM5 repliesview on HN

It's a prerequisite, but so is breathing. It's necessary but not sufficient.

The bar I like to use is pretty simple: do you know who represents you in Congress (I am American so this is my bias, but substitute your country's equivalent if there is one)? As in, your state's two Senators and your district's Representative? If not, you probably don't vote or don't pay attention when you do, and you've definitely never called your Congresspeople to complain about their votes, so you probably don't really care that much about whatever it is you say you care about, since you haven't done the easiest thing you can do to make a change.

It's not perfect, and no criteria will be, but there are tons of people who can rattle off "executive, legislative, judiciary" who nevertheless don't know ball.


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Ntrailstoday at 8:25 AM

Having valid opinions about politics and engaging with the existing political system are not the same thing. I am super happy to chat about political questions (of all sorts) irrespective of my interest in voting.

Note that when I say "talk politics" I really mean "discuss things controlled by politicians", not "discuss politicians". If you mean the latter it is a super fair bar to set!

bratbagtoday at 8:13 AM

You are filtering out politically engaged people who have assesed the current mechanisms of state to be too flawed to be worth continued interaction.

This is likely quite a large group.

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tonyedgecombetoday at 9:26 AM

>It's a prerequisite, but so is breathing. It's necessary but not sufficient.

It's the fizzbuzz of political debate.

strkentoday at 12:10 AM

This particular test might be reasonable, but at some point you're just filtering out anyone who's not in your bubble, which is a problem when your beliefs are extreme because your bubble is tiny.

Imagine a Marxist who refuses to discuss economics with anyone who can't explain dialectic materialism or enclosure.

dataflowyesterday at 10:17 PM

> and you've definitely never called your Congresspeople to complain about their votes

Or, you know, you haven't lived at the same address for twenty years. In your imagined world where every single citizen either has something so pressing to call their representatives about or is just ignorant, you're still basically filtering out everybody who moved for a job/college/SO/whatever recently. I guess in your mind it's only fitting that they're disqualified from having an opinion? For reference about 12% of Americans change residence each year.

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