alt Hacker NewsUnfortunately this is just the entry price for LLMs. With the exception of the Qwen 27B models, I personally haven’t found a ton of use cases for models less than 200B. With the right setup, fine tuning, etc, you can make small models do cool things, but hard to please everyone given the insane hardware costs at the moment and the comparably cheap API costs.
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rufasterisco • yesterday at 8:39 PM
some small models are fast, and fine tuning can be done locally
for example in gaming context, if you need an answer below 5 seconds, they are the sweet spot
dist-epoch • yesterday at 12:28 PM
Gemma4-E4B (4B params) works pretty well as a local wiki, or when you don't have connectivity.
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Small models are still great for lots of “simple intelligence” use cases, like annotating or summarising files and media; or even just basic chat when given web search tools.
My local NAS is private and I’m not going to send it off to APIs for captioning or metadata; but even Qwen3VL 8B does an excellent job at this, despite being quite old.
They are also really excellent for fine tuning. Unsloth and Tinker (from Mira’s TML) are great places to start.
If your use case is narrower than “coding agent for everything”, you can probably match frontier performances on that narrow domain with ~30b and exceed it with ~100b+.