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seizethecheeseyesterday at 3:39 PM5 repliesview on HN

While composing a reply to a comment throwing tons of shade on American AI, I took some time to check out the commenter’s HN profile. Their comment history was about 50% such comments. Their submission history started with an article about how Russia was unfairly blamed for some hacking campaign.

It’s entirely possible that this is not a foreign influence campaign. Perhaps there’s a group here that is simply anti-American as its primary interest, and passionately so to upvote each other.

On the other hand, one should not discount the value of HN as tastemaker and trendsetter. Also, it would be fairly easy to run bots here. I wouldn’t be surprised if HN were a field of combat for many parallel influence campaigns, foreign and domestic.


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snowwrestleryesterday at 4:50 PM

> On the other hand, one should not discount the value of HN as tastemaker and trendsetter.

I would encourage dedicated readers here to aggressively and persistently discount the value of HN as a tastemaker and trendsetter.

HN is actually a trailing indicator on tastes and trends, essentially by design. Things only make it to the front page if they get submitted and voted upward by a large number of people. That means it’s all stuff that is public and seems cool to a bunch of random people browsing a website. Not exactly cutting edge.

Basically every community, online or not, over-indexes on its own importance. Like how random small towns can get so worried about international terrorists targeting them. To folks who love HN, of course the great forces of the world would be attracted to compete here. Look how obviously awesome it is, right?

Paul Graham said HN was set up on the theory that it would efficiently surface great ideas and entrepreneurs for Ycombinator. Needless to say, that did not pan out. (How often do you see PG or any YC leadership here anymore?) Honestly I am mystified as to why YC continues to operate it at all.

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semiquaveryesterday at 4:36 PM

  > wouldn’t be surprised if HN were a field of combat for many parallel influence campaigns, foreign and domestic.
I would be shocked if it weren’t.
jkl5xxyesterday at 4:01 PM

Would be nice if there were a hn feature, userscript, or plugin to just filter comments from new accounts. Bonus if there was some sentiment analysis or llm-based analysis to filter out unsubstantiated inflammatory comments too.

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logicchainsyesterday at 3:56 PM

There's literally a Chinese-funded influence campaign against American AI: https://openai.com/index/disrupting-malicious-uses-of-ai-dat...

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soperjyesterday at 4:38 PM

> Perhaps there’s a group here that is simply anti-American as its primary interest, and passionately so to upvote each other.

Considering this site has international users, it's not hard to find this, especially right now. Hell, Canada is in this group currently.

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