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ChiMantoday at 8:11 AM10 repliesview on HN

AI will kill the internet because it is killing the incentive to make it. It is an industrial-strength example of why we don’t allow stealing.


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hliyantoday at 8:25 AM

Recently, I had some ideas I would normally just put up on a blog, in the public domain for anyone to develop on top of. Now, I'm feeling slightly reluctant because an LLM will ingest it, remix it and serve it in response to a query by some unimaginative individual who will either conclude that they are smart, or that LLMs are capable of original thought, or both. And they will have no clue where the idea originated from.

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randusernametoday at 11:26 AM

The key question to me is whether AI only undermines the financial incentive to make internet content.

If nobody can expect to make money on the internet, that could be a good thing. But we won't get an indie-web authenticity utopia if people are still incentivized in other ways to filter their intellectual and cultural contributions to the internet through AI.

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sphtoday at 9:22 AM

More than a facilitator of theft, LLMs are the tragedy of the commons at industrial scale.

The public internet is dead, the future is private invite-only walled gardens.

Corporations love a walled garden, what we need is open-source frameworks to create these islands, rather than defaulting to horrible systems like Discord and Twitter-clones.

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root-parenttoday at 9:54 AM

And that will kill AI itself, since much of what it knows is from what learned from StackExchange before this latest one demise.

And before the obvious comments on how GenAI is creative, then please do this OpenAI and Anthropic, for your next LLM. Just teach it Python, C and Rust and give it some good books. But dont give it access to Github...lets see what you can do then...

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throwrqXtoday at 9:32 AM

Doesn't seem like a particularly bad thing to me. Obviously for those who want to use the internet for commercial purposes it will be bad but for those of us who would love to see the internet go back to how it was before so much of it was changed in the aims of making money AI could push towards this. Great irony in the fact of course that the AI companies themselves are in the business of making as much money as possible.

bkotoday at 9:58 AM

I don't know how long you've been on the internet but the incentive to create new and original content was never that strong. Simple search terms return super-spammy websites (especially on mobile where ad-blocking is harder). SEO results for everything like simple search are awful, almost unusable. There hasn't been an incentive to create new original non-monetized content for the web for a while.

I trust LLMs more than search engines to discover my content and propagate it to users. They might "steal" something, sure, but I'm essentially invisible to the search engines as I could never hope to break into the top 10 links on a popular search term. LLMs can scan thousands of links and (for now) are more interested in quality rather than click monetization or referral incentives.

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t0bia_stoday at 8:35 AM

It depends on filed. As documentary photographer it motivates me even more to capture authentic images of life around me. I don't care about remixing, because that is not what makes documentary photography valuable.

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pjc50today at 8:56 AM

Eh, part of what made early-internet so good was exactly that it did allow copying by users; the DRM era was later. But it's a very good example of why not to allow for profit copying, because that absolutely will crowd out the original. Piracy has to exist at the margin. The zero piracy world would also eat its memories because none would leak into archives. Remember Qubi? It wasn't even popular enough for people to pirate.

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zombottoday at 8:17 AM

> why we don’t allow stealing.

With the not-so-minor qualification that the biggest thieves have always gotten away scot-free. AI is just the international whole-internet version of this.

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tonyhart7today at 9:28 AM

stealing ??? more like piracy you mean