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fredrikholmtoday at 10:19 AM3 repliesview on HN

> Everybody is asking why birth rates plummet. It’s simple. Having a family costs a fuckton of money.

It's a factor, it's not the only factor.

Decrease in teenage pregnancies, decrease in alcohol consumption, contraception and day after pills, higher levels of education, less socialized culture, less generational housing etc.

Having a child is more than often a deliberate, calculated decision that is made by adults whereas in the old world pregnancies happened left and right with little to say about it. Support systems existed because the problem was pervasive. Now the problem is generally gone, and the support systems thereafter.

No country has managed to reverse the trend of declining birth rates. The better quality of life people have, the fewer children people tend to have.

It's not just about who does and who doesn't have children, it's also how many children per family. 1-2 children is the new normal. My grandpa was #7.


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erutoday at 10:25 AM

> No country has managed to reverse the trend of declining birth rates.

Perhaps we can learn from the past? Birthrates between the world wars were below replacement level in much of the western world. Then the trend reversed for a while.

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woodpaneltoday at 10:56 AM

> No country has managed to reverse the trend of declining birth rate

May I point you to the State of Israel? Its TFR sits at 3.

And if we really want to be nitpicky, and concentrating on the "reverse"-part of your statement, then even Balkan countries shine, as they literally managed to reverse the trend.

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watwuttoday at 11:51 AM

> old world pregnancies happened left and right with little to say about it.

Yes.

> Support systems existed because the problem was pervasive. Now the problem is generally gone, and the support systems thereafter.

Meh, support for single moms or pregnant teenagers was not all that great. To large extend, they were punished and suffered, they were blamed. Their kids were oftentimes blamed.

You are better off being pregnant teenager is a single mom today then in 1950 or 1925 or whatever.