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German advocacy group lodges criminal complaint over Meta AI glasses

79 pointsby tartorantoday at 2:06 PM34 commentsview on HN

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mschildtoday at 2:54 PM

The main complaint and law that HateAid, the organization that lodged the complaint, is using, is that recording devices have to be visible as such. Glasses are not a known and widely accepted video/photo device and therefore affected by that law.

Effectively, their complaint is that a specific model looks too much like normal sunglasses that other people are unable to distinguish them as such.

Article with a bit more detail:

https://www.heise.de/en/news/AI-glasses-Criminal-charges-aga...

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Bleaphartoday at 5:28 PM

Wonder how long until something like this comes to the United States? Doubt it'll happen federally but could see some states like California setting up similar cases

rbehrendstoday at 3:46 PM

The relevant legal provision is from §8 TDDDG [1]:

"(1) It is prohibited to possess, manufacture, make available on the market, import, or otherwise bring within the territory to which this Act applies, telecommunications equipment that, by its appearance, purports to be another object or is disguised as an object of everyday use and that, because of these circumstances or because of the way it functions, is particularly suited and intended to intercept, without that person’s knowledge, the non-publicly spoken words of another person or to record images of another person without that person’s knowledge."

IANAL, but this sounds like it's directly applicable.

Violations can be punished with up to two years in prison or a fine.

[1] https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/ttdsg/__8.html

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peter_stokestoday at 2:56 PM

"HateAid said its complaint was based on a federal digital data protection law that prohibits the sale of communication devices designed to film people without them noticing."

I think the light makes it pretty clear it's recording? There will always be devices made to suppress this... I'm not sure I want to go down the path of mandating an audible camera click sound like they have for smartphones in Japan

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dgellowtoday at 2:52 PM

Ah, I was waiting for this to happen! That will be interesting to follow. From my non-lawyer read of German laws that should be a n easy win for the advocacy group, but I’m interested to see Meta’s arguments

gyanchawdharytoday at 4:44 PM

They lost badly to X a few years back, only to show incredible maturity and grace by quitting the platform afterward .. would love to see how they do against Meta

023847292847today at 3:08 PM

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