logoalt Hacker News

darth_avocadoyesterday at 10:31 PM5 repliesview on HN

The oceans are depleted. And some countries with shadow fleets are to blame more than the others. But somehow it’s not even a small priority for most countries. Whales are dying because they are malnourished and that is an indicator that there’s barely anything left. The idea that international waters are available for anyone and everyone to exploit is just wild.


Replies

amanaplanacanalyesterday at 10:56 PM

The tragedy of the commons, on a planetary scale.

throwaway2037today at 8:55 AM

    > some countries with shadow fleets
I never saw this term used for fishing boats. Do you have any countries in mind? And what exactly is "shadow"?

    > Whales are dying because they are malnourished and that is an indicator that there’s barely anything left.
I assume you are talking about the recent deaths of Pacific Gray whales.[1] They are dying because climate change has depleted their primary food source in the Arctic. They are not dying due to overfishing by humans.

[1] https://insideclimatenews.org/news/24052026/pacific-gray-wha...

show 2 replies
BrtBytetoday at 5:13 AM

Yeah, the enforcement problem seems almost absurd compared to the scale of the ocean

Liotoday at 6:15 AM

Which countries are using shadow fleets?

show 1 reply
jimbob45today at 1:45 AM

There’s really no cause to raise a panic with lab-grown meat right around the corner. AI, FSD, electric cars, nuclear energy, and drones are eating up most of the VC money right now but lab-grown meat is waiting in the wings to take over in the next few decades.

show 4 replies