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csatoday at 4:33 AM1 replyview on HN

> The catch is that it is harder to brute force being truly exceptional in one thing. That often requires talent and predisposition.

That’s true for sports, music, and academics, but I think “grinding” exceptional leadership can be a thing. It’s very learnable, and effort often times makes the difference.

Some simple examples I’ve seen in various forms:

- starting a meaningful business or non-profit

- starting a meaningful arts or sports experience (literary magazine, regional film festival, regional sports event/tournament, etc.)

- many/most substantial Eagle Scout projects (not all are substantial enough)

The heuristic I tell people to use is this — the reader of the application will go “no kidding… I’d really like to talk to this person and learn more about this” (aka “have a beer with them” type of sentiment)

> Grinding 15 hours a day is a more realistic option for most children and parents.

See above… grind at the right thing. Full-time grinding academics is a fools errand unless the applicant can demonstrate their competence at a regional level, if not national or international level.


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s1artibartfasttoday at 5:12 AM

Still seems like a much more risky and challenging strategy with low chance of success.

What is the chance that a mediocre or talentless student can grind Regional success? What is the chance that mediocre and talentless parents can support that?

Grinding grades and academics is absolutely a path the top tier universities like Berkeley or UCLA, even if you won't get in the S tier private schools.

I've seen several ESL immigrant parents simply lock their kids up and make them study their way to Berkeley, despite having never graduated high school themselves.

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