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liotiertoday at 7:03 AM3 repliesview on HN

Remember December 2025, when Marco Rubio ordered diplomats to return to using Times New Roman font in official communications, calling his predecessor's decision to adopt Calibri a “wasteful” diversity move ?


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maratctoday at 9:52 AM

In a choice of either Times New Roman or Calibri, I would think that Times fits the US State Dept better. Calibri is a relaxed, modern typeface, while Times is classical and majestic. (The word "stately" also comes to mind.)

It would probably be better if State Department would get their own typeface -- as opposed to picking one from MS Office defaults -- but even then, I'd argue for Antiqua style (serif). SCOTUS, for one, is using Century Schoolbook.

P.S. I don't care at all about Rubio, Dem-Rep divide, "diversity" vs "wastefulness" debate, or any of the arguments brought from either side in 2023 (when they changed Times to Calibri) or 2025 (when they switched back).

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throw0101dtoday at 11:38 AM

Gruber links to the original copy of the memo that he managed to obtain through 'sources':

* https://daringfireball.net/misc/2025/12/state-department-ret...

* Via: https://daringfireball.net/2025/12/full_text_of_marco_rubio_...

Gruber's commentary:

> Rubio’s memo makes the argument — correctly — that aesthetics matter, and that the argument that Calibri was in any way more accessible than Times New Roman was bogus. Rubio’s memo does not lash out against accessibility as a concern or goal. He simply makes the argument that Blinken’s order mandating Calibri in the name of accessibility was an empty gesture. Purely performative, at the cost of aesthetics.

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> 2024 was a Biden year, not a Trump year, so there’s no reason to think the remediation numbers were counted differently. The change to Calibri was the worst kind of accessibility effort: one that was founded on nothing more than feel-good performance. It was a change everyone could see and notice, but one that had no practical benefit whatsoever. Good on Rubio for rescinding a bad decision, and even better for doing so with a fair and informative explanation.^2

Gruber is no fan of the Trump administrator generally, but he thinks in this case it seems that they/Rubio got it right.

He also recently had a post on the various style guides of various US federal courts:

* https://daringfireball.net/2026/05/the_fonts_of_the_us_feder...

mohamedkoubaatoday at 2:07 PM

The utter banality of the fourth reich

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