alt Hacker NewsCompletely opposite experience for me.
I love working with Dart (which IMO is _not_ "worst parts of Java and Javascript (...) turned (...) into a language", "Terrible to write, terrible to read, terrible to use" - quite the opposite, actually) and its toolchain, including Flutter.
I find the architecture simple to follow, no need for "either print apps as fast as possible or to emulate some Clean Code like behavior", though I do think some people use overcomplicated state management solutions. But nobody forces anybody to do that.
My experience with Web has been fine so far and I've seen fully cross platform Flutter apps working absolutely fine on mobile, desktop and web.
This is not to gaslight your experience, YMMV after all.
And React Native, with its dependency hell, project rot, npm ecosystem under the hood, and transpilation with lax runtime leaking into TS, is a total no-go for me. Though I base this opinion partially on my experience with NodeJS, and partially on that of my friends who use RN.
Btw. Does your platform support bundling UI in addition to streaming it from the server? How large is the bundled runtime?
PS. Clicking on "see all supported platforms →" on your project's homepage gives 404 for https://docs.hypen.space/docs/adapters .
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>I find the architecture simple to follow, no need for "either print apps as fast as possible or to emulate some Clean Code like behavior", though I do think some people use overcomplicated state management solutions. But nobody forces anybody to do that.
Unfortunately sometimes you have to, and on average, that code is much worse than your average React Native spaghetti. Whole generations of Flutter devs got these patterns ingrained, and often times they make not just writing and reading code, but communication itself harder.
>And React Native, with its dependency hell, project rot, npm ecosystem under the hood, and transpilation with lax runtime leaking into TS, is a total no-go for me.
That was my stance too until the new architecture released - since then the framework has improved a whole lot, together with its build chain, and is the best way to do crossplatform nowadays.
>Btw. Does your platform support bundling UI in addition to streaming it from the server? How large is the bundled runtime?
Not yet unless you DIY it - currently you can bundle UI and runtime by integrating the Rust engine + renderer with your app, or TS + renderer itself.
There is work being done in a private mirror currently on bundling the whole app + runtime as WASM, exposing WASI interfaces to native such as storage, network, permissions etc, depending on how testing goes it should land in a month or two on the public branch.
>PS. Clicking on "see all supported platforms →" on your project's homepage gives 404 for https://docs.hypen.space/docs/adapters
Thanks, fixing that ASAP!
What state management solution(s) do you prefer?