alt Hacker NewsOther thoughts: I really think Google has fallen behind here. Even as a high speed offering (this build took ~7min, which is pretty good!), it wont be able to claim dominance for long with cerebras announcing the Sol preview today: https://www.cerebras.ai/blog/accelerating-gpt-5-6-sol-ultraf... .
It's not a bad model by any means, but I just don't know what situation I'd reach for 3.7 Flash first for. Google really needs a differentiator, especially given how hard it is to get an API key from them. They can't be high friction and non-pareto.
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I use LLMs rarely, and only for digging into subjects which I can't find enough information using search engines. I only tried Claude and Gemini, but Gemini both returns faster and higher quality information which I can use for more targeted digging myself.
Google being Google, their models tend to be better at finding, organizing and presenting information, from my experience.
The API key you are mentioning is just ridiculous. Onboarding your company or personal account is a trap. I ended up getting assigned to sales guy just to test their Vertex API because I used a company email.
Of course, we just used OpenRouter for testing and never touched a Gemini model anymore.
> but I just don't know what situation I'd reach for 3.7 Flash
You reach for it every time you do a Google search
Depends on the definition of friction. If someone is in the Google ecosystem, why would they reach out of it.
I like using 3.5-flash-lite for doing cheap PDF and Image data extraction stuff. I don't think there is a better bang / buck model right now (3.1 is cheaper but a lot worse).
It's much cheaper tho. Junie says Fable is 5-10x more than default model (Gemini 3 Flash Preview).
> especially given how hard it is to get an API key from them
What does this mean? Anybody can get an API key
Can you help me understand how it is hard to get an API key from Google? You just head on over to http://aistudio.google.com/api-keys and create a key... not any different from platform.openai.com?
Disclaimer: I work in Google so it might be that this link is not publicly well known