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KronisLV • today at 7:14 AM • 5 replies • view on HN

Their coding plan switched to credits, didn’t it? What are the rate limits like, compared to Anthropic or Kimi K3?

I remember trying their Coding Plan out before the change and the 5 hour limits felt too restrictive then even for light/medium work, especially cause of the whole peak and off-peak thing: https://blog.kronis.dev/blog/z-ai-s-glm-5-2-is-a-great-model...

Nowadays, I’d probably go with their Max plan if the rate limits are okay? Anyone using them now?

Oh also unrelated but ZCode was surprisingly good, which is surprising for a tool that came out of nowhere - even some of the critiques in my blog post have been patched out. Sadly they don’t support using Claude Code as an agent so can’t use it like Paseo or Kepler or Agent Orchestrator.

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KronisLV • today at 4:10 PM

Update: tested it out myself on their Max plan, on some parallel agentic sessions.

Currently 20% of my 5 hour limit and 4% of my weekly limit.

  Total: 58.46M
  GLM-5.3 Cached: 56.91M
  GLM-5.3 Uncached: 1.23M
  GLM-5.3 Output: 315.18K
  Cache hit rate: 97.9%
Extrapolating from that (inaccurate for now but oh well):

            Full 5-hour  Full weekly
  Total     292.3M       1.461B
  Cached    284.6M       1.423B
  Uncached  6.15M        30.75M
  Output    1.576M       7.88M
All of the work was off-peak I think, using OpenCode not ZCode in these examples.

Their own estimates are quite different, probably due to their conservative caching estimates vs what I normally get on longer form work: https://docs.z.ai/devpack/overview#estimated-token-allowance

ljosifov • today at 9:35 AM

Wdym "sadly they don’t support using Claude Code"? For the longest time that's all Zai supported - Claude code. I'd run it via

  export ZAI_ANTHROPIC_BASE_URL="https://api.z.ai/api/anthropic"
  export ZAI_ANTHROPIC_AUTH_TOKEN="$ZAI_API_KEY"
  claude-zai() {
      { local -; set -x; } 2>/dev/null
      ANTHROPIC_BASE_URL="$ZAI_ANTHROPIC_BASE_URL" ANTHROPIC_AUTH_TOKEN="$ZAI_ANTHROPIC_AUTH_TOKEN" claude "$@"
  }
  $ claude-zai
I liked Claude Code to start with. But over time between 'CC cache thrashing undo' seetings (I see now accumulated in ~/.claude/settings.json) and Anthropic-anything becoming a liability - have not used it in while. ZCode is ok and use it to take advantage of the discount tokens on offer from time to time. But really glad to see that in omp (oh-my-pi) Zai is a 1st class provider, can be selected on it's own no configs shananigans needed. And fits in the overall picture. E.g. can select GLM-5.2 (now 5.3) assign role [plan] or glm-5-turbo [advisor].

Got reminded now of glm-5v-turbo - that 'v' was for vision - will try assign it role [vision] now in omp. See what happens. :-) Often times it's handy when describing gui problems if the harness/model 'can see'.

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Havoc • today at 11:31 AM

> Anyone using them now?

You're gonna have a had time getting straight answer to that out of the internet. There are now 4 different flavours of the Max plan floating around (Legacy V1, Legacy V2, New plans, and the current credit ones). And on top of that they have peak times. So ~8 scenarios, 24 in total across all feedback for their coding plans.

So when someone tells you they're having a good time on a GLM coding plan it's damn near unusable as a datapoint unless both parties are very clear about what precisely is being discussed

[It's been good for me though...V1 Max off peak...which is basically the best of the 24]

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cmrdporcupine • today at 11:33 AM

I found with GLM I was better off using plans from either Neuralwatt or Ollama.

But Neuralwatt significantly raised their rates since then.

scotty79 • today at 8:55 AM

I feel like quota on their subs is extremely generous. I pay 3-4 times less for larger quota than gpt-5.6-sol.