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avaeryesterday at 10:31 PM6 repliesview on HN

What's funny is that extensions were supposed to be a way to let you do the things the browser didn't want you to do. Guess that was a bit too much freedom for Google to accept, so they had to make a store with a gate, and destroy the APIs so that they're useless. Then they had to make up some reasons to justify that and ram it through the pipeline despite everyone's objections, and the frog got boiled.

Now we're back to needing an actual extension system that does what extensions were supposed to do in the first place.


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matheusmoreirayesterday at 10:41 PM

> Then they had to make up some reasons to justify that

Hate to be the one to defend Google here, but the reasons weren't that unreasonable. I want my browser to prevent random extensions from directly reading web page data. The declarative API idea is pretty good.

It's just that uBlock Origin is so insanely useful, important and trusted, it should get full access to the entire browser regardless. Honestly, it should be literally built into the browser instead of being a mere extension. Only the conflicts of interest inherent in an ad company maintaining an ad blocker prevent that.

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socalgal2today at 1:27 AM

> Google ... had to ... destroy the APIs so that they're useless.

I see this repeated over and over and yet uBlock Origin Lite still seems to block almost all ads. I'm not saying I wouldn't prefer the non-lite version. But, given I basically still don't see ads it's kind of hard to argue Google destroyed the APIs so that they're useless

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Gigachadyesterday at 10:49 PM

Browser extensions were also one of the biggest ways to distribute malware. The situation was genuinely horrific. Malware distributors would offer popular extension devs millions of dollars to buy the extension, then silently insert malware which gets auto deployed to millions of people.

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inigyoutoday at 12:46 AM

Firefox extensions are already so incredibly locked down. It used to be they could edit any part of the UI anywhere. Now they each get a button at the end of the URL bar if they're lucky, otherwise it's some obscure hamburger menu item.

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croestoday at 6:55 AM

> extensions were supposed to be a way to let you do the things the browser didn't want you to do.

If that would have been the case, extensions wouldn’t exist.

Extension are a way to make the browser do what the browser manufacturer didn’t think or care about.

tomjen3today at 3:34 AM

There are good solid reasons why Manifest v3 is preferable for most extensions.

The issue is that adblocking doesn't work with it, so an addition, or workaround should be made, but when Google has the amount of influence they have, that didn't happen.

The upshut is that people hate ads and like free stuff, so there is now a good selling point for Firefox. Hell some of us switched to Firefox because it blocked popup ads and had tabs, back in the day.

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