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swed420today at 12:05 AM2 repliesview on HN

The level of mental gymnastics in this thread denying the extent to which companies like Google (and their puppets like Mozilla) control the internet is too damn high.

Fortunately if projects like Ladybird gain enough momentum, websites might be forced to cater to it. Time will tell.


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inigyoutoday at 12:45 AM

You know you can make a browser based on Firefox's core and don't need to make a new one from scratch that'll never get past Cloudflare?

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Plonttoday at 1:00 AM

They literally didn't deny that. They made a separate point you appear not to have actually read.

Regardless, I don't want baked-in Firefox adblocking in part because I don't trust Mozilla with that task either. They'd absolutely end up allowing their own "acceptable" telemetry and ads. Even if they didn't, it would be unlikely to ever be as effective as Ublock Origin. Much like how Chromium browsers' built-in adblocking is barely anything in comparison, even on Manifest V2.

And yet, for now, Firefox and Mozilla is by far the lesser evil. I like a few of the Chromium browsers well enough, but they are ultimately at the mercy of Google.

I hope Ladybird does well, too.

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