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Supersonic Trebuchet [video]

118 pointsby CharlesWlast Saturday at 12:18 AM47 commentsview on HN

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roomeytoday at 10:03 AM

Thinking this approach out, could someone correct me if I have this wrong.

So he gradually increases the energy transfer from the weight to the arm over the course of the drop. But that arm swinging around must have a lot of energy loss due to friction and air resistance.

This loss will rise exponentially with the speed increase right? So in a sense he is holding his energy budget in a very inefficient phase, with high losses.

Two things support this. A) he spent a lot of time trying to make the arm more arodynamic. B) The spool widening at the end, which is essentially changing back down gears, applying more torque, right at the end when you want speed.

An alternative would be to drop the weight, and let it fall unrestricted until it gets to it's highest speed (this would minimise friction and air resistance) and only at the end of its fall, transfer the energy into the arm.

In this case the arm would only need to rotate 180 degrees or whatever, and not waste energy rotating right?

And then, to take this a step further to make this work there would need to be some flexibility or elasticity in the system to take energy from the high speed falling weight to the arm.

And what you have ended up with is something that looks like.... A whip!

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arlattimoretoday at 5:28 AM

Tom Stanton has a raft of cool videos, I like the engineering iterations he often goes through to find a working prototype.

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londons_exploretoday at 6:40 AM

I suspect that with a little iterative modelling of the whole system with derivatives, efficiency could be bought from ~40% to ~80%, giving you an extra few hundred mph...

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foo42today at 7:47 AM

Great video.

Other trebuchet fans who dream of building one some day may be interested in googling "walking trebuchet" for a surprisingly high complexity/results ratio.

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londons_exploretoday at 6:58 AM

Interesting that his spool goes bigger at the end...?

I would think you want it decreasing to near zero to extract all the kinetic energy from the mass, leaving the mass stationary as it hits the ground.

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drtoboggantoday at 7:18 AM

Really wondering up to what point I can build a trebuchet in my backyard before the authorities start to complain

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arielpetittoday at 10:20 AM

Interesting

manlymuppettoday at 8:34 AM

Fuckin love this guy

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MomsAVoxelltoday at 7:48 AM

I would love for this to be optimized to the point that its portable and can be carried around, assembled on the side of the mountain, and used as a low-cost, efficient way to throw things from one mountain to another, maybe for avalanche control, or cloud seeding, or indeed for seed bombs intended for re-wilding hard to access places, or something.

It just seems like such an obvious tool, rather than a weapon.

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