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"That's not SOC 2 compliant"

33 pointsby toshtoday at 6:01 AM15 commentsview on HN

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aberohamtoday at 7:40 AM

Engineers often over-think compliance. SOC2 is regulatory capture, and an audit that tests your controls. You define the appropriate controls. As long as you do what you say you're going to do, you should pass the audit. It's not rocket science. It's a feature of a correct system that it is auditable. How easy it is to audit is really a function of your maturity. SOC2 and its ilk such as ISO27001 are just maturity signalling mechanisms. Stop overthinking it or applying black and white rules -- in actual practice its always shades of grey and most auditors are just happy to have an engaged and switched on team to be auditing, vs someone who treats it as adversarial. You're paying them!

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aleda145today at 6:43 AM

This stance is a breath of fresh air. In my experience change management is the first thing to slap on when a bad release happens.

I've worked at a large enterprise that have a "Change Advisory Board", that you need to convince when you want to bump the major version on your linter. It has the effect of velocity slowing down to a crawl. Changes have to large, since otherwise it wouldn't be approved by the CAB. A slow mess.

At my current place we have to loudly declare "I CONFIRM COMPLIANCE" in every PR description. I'm not sure that anyone knows why, but it keeps the bureaucrats happy. Shrug

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jpollocktoday at 6:35 AM

I was in a high trust environment that didn't use dual auth on some things. They lost $250k to embezzlement.

High trust is high trust until someone exploits it, and the likelihood of encountering an exploit (embezzlement, fraud, political speech, etc.) approaches 100 as the total number of staff hours increase.

abofhtoday at 6:35 AM

Youre required to have a policy. That policy may be throwing bananas at the wall, but if it's documented and you follow it, you're compliant with policy.

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whirlwintoday at 6:51 AM

Does there exist any tool to analyze PR feedback quality and usefulness?

I've been trying to explain to compliance employees that if the majority of PR reviews anyway is just "LGTM - Just merge" (I don't care), what's the actual value of PRs? It's just facade.

On a different note, we're looking into artifact attestations and admissions through Sigstore, which is solves many of the same challenges but through different means.

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kazinatortoday at 6:51 AM

AICPA should have spent 5 seconds on a web search to find out that SoC means System on a Chip, and chosen something else.

NewJazztoday at 6:30 AM

Soc2 is pointless.

But how do they review each other's work? Prs are indispensable for collaboration...

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jaylanetoday at 6:56 AM

there goes the neighborhood

rohansood15today at 6:42 AM

So an engineer who knows your codebase and tests can sneak in malicious code/backdoors because you're high trust.

And I am guessing you'll extend that high trust to your agents/'orbs' next. And I am sure you'll find an auditor who'll go with it coz frankly most don't care.

I am not surprised there are folks willing to do this, but I am surprised that you feel you must brag about it. And you ARE bragging when you title the post the way you did. Good luck.

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