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bri3dtoday at 1:35 AM15 repliesview on HN

Friction drive e-bike conversions were popular years ago.

They generally:

* Wear tires surprisingly quickly

* Absolutely suck in any form of weather or terrain condition (dirt, rain, etc.)

* Have ~20% less efficiency than any other drive form.

But, they are easy, and they do work.


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molsongoldentoday at 4:11 AM

This bike booster will probably come in at less than half the cost but the Bimotal kit is another option that doesn't have the tire wear issue, offers better performance, and the form factor is much nicer.

https://bimotal.com/products/elevate

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thih9today at 5:55 AM

Also:

* you cannot install them on bikes with a rear rack. Here most city bikes have them.

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ryukopostingtoday at 3:52 AM

And, don't forget: easy to steal off even a well-secured bicycle.

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BloondAndDoomtoday at 7:56 AM

Do they work with mountain bikes? As stupid as this sounds I like mountain biking but I don’t have stamina to climb up hills and then keep doing for a long time. I have an electric bike but designed for road

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veunestoday at 8:23 AM

Wet-weather performance in particular seems like the thing I'd want to see independently tested

calmbonsaitoday at 2:22 AM

Yeah. I don’t see weather or theft addressed in this design.

I recall a wheel-mounted rotor system from a few years back that did address theft, tire-wear, and weather, but it suffered from far too little torque and very limited battery life.

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culitoday at 3:07 AM

Personally I also don't see the niche they serve. If I'm going far away I take a train or a car. I pretty much exclusively use my bike to ride to a nearby grocery store or do other close-by errands. If I'm doing short errands like this, I really prize being able to get on and off quickly and lock my bike up quickly. A device like this needs to be taken with you when you leave your bike to prevent theft. It's a whole nother step and a lot of extra weight

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Fnoordtoday at 3:27 AM

Looks like you can't have a passenger anymore either. I like to have my kid on the backseat of my e-bike.

I'm not in the market for this, but I am in the market for making my cargo bike electric. Having to slow down at a traffic light and then start from zero absolutely sucks. It goes very slow, it is rough, and you won't have time. I'd use it just for that specific use-case.

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leptonstoday at 8:46 AM

I made one in 1985 for my 10 speed bike, it was pretty fun for a while. I was in my early teens at the time.

MisterTeatoday at 4:14 AM

Are there any mechanically coupled solutions that can be field installed by the owner?

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Lord_Zerotoday at 2:22 AM

I had a gas powered goped that worked that way years ago. Had all those problems but it was fun. The second you hit any water the drive shaft would just spin against the tire.

taneqtoday at 5:00 AM

I remember back in the 90s some guys at my school fitted a whipper snipper motor to a 12” kiddy bike with a friction drive (I think it was a skateboard wheel fitted to the output shaft).

tadfishertoday at 2:57 AM

They could have made basically the same thing except with a sprocket to help drive the chain.

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StopTencenttoday at 1:42 AM

Tires wear out super fast. It's hard to say there is a market for this other than the uninformed.