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lukeifytoday at 4:38 AM1 replyview on HN

As the original poster you replied to, why do you think it's exaggeration to predict that people will die from increasingly strong heatwaves? This is already happening [0]. And: "For 2022, it was estimated that between 60,000 and 70,000 people in Europe died from heat (Ballester et al., 2023; Ballester et al., 2024)"

It's extremely hypocritical of you to accuse me of exaggerating when your own presentation of facts is selective and not-representative of what we are seeing globally. An El Niño will only exacerbate heatwaves in some parts of the planet over the next 24 months.

[0]: https://www.gov.uk/government/news/ukhsa-report-shows-2877-e...

[1]: https://climate-adapt.eea.europa.eu/en/observatory/topics/he...


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timrtoday at 4:46 AM

You need to bring evidence, not press releases.

Your first link says that more people died this year, relative to predictions for this year, because of a single heat wave. This has ~nothing to do with the discussion at hand, and is a classic example of the sort of hyperbole I am talking about.

The second link says that heat events kill people in the UK. Fine. It links to a single paper claiming that:

> half of the heat-related deaths in Europe in the summer of 2022 have been attributed to anthropogenic climate change (Beck et al., 2024).

Regardless of the quality of the cited paper, this is a far cry from evidence of a trend.

> It's extremely hypocritical of you to accuse me of exaggerating when your own presentation of facts is selective and not-representative of what we are seeing globally.

You're literally exaggerating, right now. I quoted the latest IPCC report and told you factually what it says. You linked to a press release and a UK climate portal page that don't support what you're insuinating.

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