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defrosttoday at 7:08 AM1 replyview on HN

Nobody in planet modelling has ever suggested that the 3 phase El Niño–Southern Oscillation (ENSO) exists because of fossil fuel usage.

An extreme swing, here and there, has always been part of its nature.

The observed change is more and more extreme swings, greater amplitude, higher frequency.


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pelasacotoday at 8:15 AM

in one hand i wanted to highlight that if it was today, we - as civilization - would definitely create a link between the events, based on our "feeling"

in another hand, i question if we really could rule out, since back in the days, everything that we have was coal.

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