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tyreyesterday at 10:28 PM7 repliesview on HN

To people asking why, this is a good lesson on the Collison’s ambitions. Stripe is one of the best API companies in the world. They know how to serve high volumes of latency and availability sensitive requests. They’ve abstracted the financial rails for payments and now want to abstract the rails for LLMs.

They’re the perfect company to own OpenRouter.

Tokens are simply a lightweight valuable asset. Stripe can serve as the middleman as well as anyone. They know how to route to many providers (payment rails) with huge differences in service characteristics. LLM providers are far easier.

Then they can work this into an offering where users can subscribe to tokens and use them across services. It solves one of the core monetization challenges of every AI company: how do you price when your costs are variable on usage, but nobody can make sense of charging by token?

From here, they can start hosting their own models and competing as an AWS for tokens. They can be the best provider of $OPEN_MODEL, or their own, and optimize for you.


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danielmarkbrucetoday at 1:00 AM

You'd be surprised how little volume of api calls payments companies get compared to advertising companies or consumer internet companies. Stripe aren't especially well placed to own this asset on a technical level. That doesn't make this a bad acquisition per se, but there is no magic stripe can inject here as far as infra/technology is concerned.

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christina97today at 12:11 AM

Do people feel Stripe APIs are really that good? I’ve always found them unintuitive, tons of options, weird edge cases, breaking occasionally, etc.

I’m sure payments are convoluted, but I’d still imagine they could be meaningfully easier for the bulk 80% of use case?

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runakotoday at 12:23 AM

> Tokens are simply a lightweight valuable asset

(Not picking on you here, you just provided a well-written peg for a popular narrative. I'm aiming to sharpen my own thinking here & perhaps learn something.)

This seems like a stretch given the rise of local inference, especially the Prism Labs rumors from a few weeks ago.

One way I think about LLMs is they are akin to fancy databases in that they are software of which you can ask questions and get answers if you ask properly. Oracle & SQL Server are akin to OpenAI and Anthropic, and there are analogues for MySQL, PostgreSQL, SQLite, MongoDB, PlanetScale, etc. (This is an analogy, it's not going to be a perfect fit.)

In that view, would it make sense for someone to say that their credit card processor just bought the company that makes their ODBC driver? Would anybody suggest that the TPS of their RDS instance is a lightweight asset?

I don't see this as strategic beyond the obvious idea that Stripe wants to get closer to AI, and they haven't been able to get the market to care about their natural linkage to AI (Radar).

> they can start hosting their own models and competing as an AWS for tokens

The financial pressure of doing this has caused cuts to core product teams at the richest companies (which Stripe isn't!). I would not want my payments processor to go down this road and to get worse at processing payments.

ohcmonyesterday at 11:41 PM

Ok, at first I didn’t get it and thought it would make sense if stripe just wants to build payments for agents, but on a second thought your idea about “once buy tokens — use everywhere” is very good one!

Marciplantoday at 12:22 AM

why did they miss the market that is OpenRouter?

27183yesterday at 11:22 PM

unless it's all just tulip mania, then they just spent $7B on nothing

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absolutenobody0yesterday at 10:29 PM

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